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they will they will put us on tv and on the radio and sell us with our backstories you can be an adopted teens support one of these kids and so sometimes these people would come

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and visit sometimes they send gifts

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would often some letters back to them thanking them sometimes some of the adopted teens so get kind of weird and funny in general um just adopted teen program was just that it was

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a program that collects money for kids in the program

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and brothers

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i'm gonna be honest the whole program made me feel like i was kept out

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ah from the campus of freedom village usa an international ministry dedicated to reaching the teenagers of the

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united states and canada welcome to victory

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my name is margaret and this is we warn them freedom village and investigative miniseries unpacking what happened freedom village usa through interviews with the people who experienced it themselves

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we will mention different forms of abuse and violence throughout the series so please take care of yourself as you feel necessary

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uh

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this is the voice of jesse a friend of mine from the we warn them campaign introduced me to him because he thought i may want to know his story he was first put into foster care as a kid and raised by a couple in chicago he came to freedom village in ninety ninety one at fifteen years old and ended up staying for four years

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ears i asked him how he first arrived

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that is an interesting question so

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when i was fifteen i

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was molested by

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i was actually a foster kid and i was molested by cousin i told my dad it was like his favorite nephew and so my dad was in denial and

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some other things came off and my dad

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oh like i was lying and at some point it got turned around on me that i was gay and that i kind of did this i projected this so they saw on health through um

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psychiatric hospital or doctor um river's edge hospital in chicago

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and the doctor that worked there actually recommended it he has some other students say he had referred there previously

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it seemed like there were different incentives for jesse to be placed here for his parents it was marketed as a form of conversion therapy but for the doctor i wondered if there was some sort of monetary gain especially considering he personally took jesse there himself jesse describes what happened to him after he got dropped off

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so then after we got out of the office they told me that they were gonna have someone take me over to the dorm to see my room so they introduced me to who's going to be my roommate and i just remember just being just completely lost and like what just happened

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i think the first few hours that i was there they went through my stuff they took all my stuff and it was pretty much like this is what your life is going to be the first few days i was just terrified

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i didn't even want to take a shower i'm so terrified i didn't know what was gonna happen or who's gonna try what i was just i just knew that i was taken to the school where there were these other boys that were supposedly all delinquents so there was a voice doormen and girls dorm and there was probably about

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two hundred boys and about maybe one hundred fifty girls i might be wrong and my less but there are a lot there were four hallways and the boys door and at least twelve rooms in each hallway at least two people in every room summer at three and four people lady call

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yesterday i mentioned it last night she shed a little off i've had my little girl fourteen years old in the back edge and ward park thirty days fifty dollars a day that's fifteen hundred dollars a you know her husband that girl didn't make fifty dollars a day

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he had work a long time he worked pumping at least two months to pay for her hospital bill

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for one month and i said the

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i sure don't ask you one question she better should know she

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jenna just heard adventure girls home in strange but girls and boys would come to us and have tried and failed on everything they've ever tried yet when jesus comes along i think

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that was lester roll-off an evangelical preacher from corpus christi texas who can essentially be credited with creating the business model for the independent fundamentalist baptist home for troubled teens born in nineteen fourteen and a rural part of texas he quickly reached out of his hometown and found comfort in the spotlight of preaching

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in nineteen forty four he launched a half hour radio program called the family altar which preached the old testament think fire and brimstone his audience grew significantly as his program soon expanded from texas to a total of twenty two states with this new audience lester started selling book

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bullets giving speeches and soon opening facilities

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in nineteen fifty one he took his growing ministry and incorporated the whole thing to incorporate is illegal act that allows someone to form a corporation ultimately people decide to incorporate for three big reasons the first is legal protection having an incorporated organization offers more protection under the law

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the second is asset protection the owner of the company can have personal assets separate from the company if sued any incurred damages would not extend to the owner as personal assets would be deemed untouchable and the last is taxes a religious corporation operating with a religious tax exempt

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sion does not have to pay property tax lester roll-off built an empire in texas

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the volume of donations only increased when he tapped into the hearts of followers by creating homes and reform schools for children many of the kids in his homes were foster care kids last year roll-off enterprise the radio station and everything moved from corpus christi texas to fort thomas on the indian resurrect

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ation this is barb and original survivor of one of lester roloff first homes the rebecca home for girls i was there when it but bill clinton's and all the governors and all the political things we were taken to the gp conventions to the rallies we had republicans rallies everywhere

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she is now an activist and speaks out against trouble teen abuse

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we open forum we sang for him and we were damaged children he has made out to be like bad kids i myself was a foster kid many children there were just unwanted children that the state gave to this man which was a complete lunatic and we never loved the fence unless it was

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as to the republicans we were handcuffed to the drainpipes and that's how a nineteen seventy three what people don't understand in nineteen seventy three when we got the first abuse charge came

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last year roll-off made a plea deal and i got all these court documents papers a plea deal not to cuff is no more to drain pipes while the next girl that got away of course was coughed and thick he broke the plea deal so dcfs the state came in they want an oversight to check on us he re

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fused elect to state in to check on us

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she arrived in nineteen seventy three this was also the same year that the first charges of abuse were lobbied against the rebecca home sixteen girls gave their testimony describing whippings with leather straps beating with paddles being handcuffed to drain pipes and imprisonment within isolation cells

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this led to the state welfare passing the child care licensing act which required all child care facilities to be licensed by the state however roll-off refuse to license his homes arguing that he was quote satisfied by god's rules and only followed the bible he continued to appeal

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eel state orders and can you imagine my lone star state my age state closing down ministers like these it's an insult to god's work and god's people that support these home to fuchsia

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of doing irreversible damage to children will make no charge

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and then done nothing but love them and implementation the same the praises of god the homes that brother roll-off operates in the state of texas are all in legal jeopardy

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to continue their operation he must require a license from the welfare department if brother roll-off gets this license he would have to alter his standards and methods which have proved successful and adopt state standards which have proven unsuccessful in nineteen seventy eight with the election of the next texting governor approaching row

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and himself with republican candidate bill clements roll-off use his substantial radio platform to encourage listeners to vote for clements in return clements promised to support the amendment to the child welfare laws if he were elected clements won by eighteen thousand votes

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and nineteen seventy nine three roll-off homes were shut down after failing to comply with the new welfare laws the christian law association who represented roll-off enterprises argued that the act in pinched on the corporation's right to exercise freedom of religion that challenge was denied and three homes were forced to clay

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close however by the fall of that same year all the homes were reopened under the people's baptist church the one that roll-off created back in nineteen sixty nine rather than the roll-off evangelistic enterprises

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in nineteen seventy nine when the home got raided and closed down the first time when they reopen underneath the church people's church it was all off enterprise seventy nine for roll-off interface nineteen and eighty is the people's church when that happened

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off took five million dollars and transferred a lot of properties these workers is always the same markers but they just moved around to different homes in different states you know it was the same circle i should say

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that's when bethel open um happiness hills you know stuff like that the little branch offs the first break offs that's when nat open as in that property transferred the omer workers from our farm all the politicians very political my childhood turned very political

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um we had presidents governors senators and good old bill clements if you do not know bill clements the governor that roll-up put in to office um is the beginning of the g o p y wiring he's the one that started it we're in all the articles i

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got the very first articles when it happened when they announced the event you know the white room publican party and clinics you know it say right there because of the role often girls brought less roll-off and the rebecca girls he used us so much lose call his crown jewel job

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we were taken everywhere and people would send him money to take care of us whores and prostitutes don't theme from hippy highs internal cases nobody wants i heard that every day sometimes two days two times a day for three years of my life i watched myself on youtube as a child being called a whore

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i'm thirteen years old

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and he made millions and millions once and we've counted the money one time we counted six point four million dollars he made in a week of low love donations that's really when jerry farwell payment

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roll-off gained more traction through the radio and open more homes in states outside of texas with new political connections he also began connecting with more preachers across the country people like bob jones jerry falwell and paul why rick

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if you look at fletcher brothers website today on the front page you'll see that he calls himself one of the founders of the evangelical right so i began to look into the history of the modern evangelical movement which led me to paul why rick

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all wiring is the conscience of american conservatism for three or four decades while wiring has been the moral compass that points to conservative ideals he's been a great role model and a great mentor for a whole generation of men and women on capitol hill around the country in fact if you'd like

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look in in the congress and us house of representatives the united states senate you'd find senators and house members and staffers and men and women who are governors and working in public policy institutes were journalists whose conservative ideals were really awakened and sharpened because of paul wyman

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paul why rick went to washington dc in the nineteen sixties on a mission to get white evangelical christians involved in politics essentially he saw this as a huge potential voting bloc you have this large group of people evangelical christians who are not politically involved and not politically united but their belief system is

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is very easy to understand it is based around fear fear of sin fear of damnation fear of the devil and fear makes people easy to manipulate so that's exactly what he did how many of our christians have what i call the goo goo syndrome

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good government they want everybody to vote

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i don't want everybody to vote elections are not won by a majority of people they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now as a matter of fact our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down they needed a cause an issue that would get people engaged and that issue turn

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out to be school segregation many people think it was roe vs wade but that served as a later cause brown vs the board of education officially ended racial segregation in public schools and nineteen fifty four but a lot of people pushed back on this and one way that white families tried to get around this rule was to create

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their own private schools and these private schools were sponsored by churches meaning that they were technically considered christian charities and were allowed to have tax exempt status these schools are sometimes referred to as segregation academies one example of this was a school open by jerry falwell

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not going to go where they're not wanted any more than whites gonna go where they're not wanted and so there's no real andre please come we'd love to have it as part of this plan to take that open stand sometimes it's costly to one's social political stance jerry falwell was a preacher televangelist and one of the major political forces

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his in the mid twentieth century using his encyclopedic knowledge of the bible he convinced his congregation that the most righteous interpretation of scripture was a literal one his following ballooned throughout the nineteen fifties and sixties to the point where he could only preach in spaces designed for thousands of parishioners to come together

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this was the beginning of what we now know as the megachurch and nineteen sixty nine just a year after desegregation and holmes county where falwell opened his school the number of white students enrolled in public schools dropped from seven hundred seventy one to twenty eight the following year there were no white students because they'd

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all transferred to the private christian schools the segregation academies jerry falwell one of the most prominent leaders of the evangelical movement in america there's this is a little bit of a sermon that he gave to his congregation in lynchburg virginia years after that ruling was rendered quote if chief justice

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warren and his associates had known god's word and had desired to do the lord's will i am quite confident that the nineteen fifty four decision would never have been made the facility should be separate when god has drawn a line of distinction we should not attempt to cross that

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that line the true negro does not want integration he realizes his potential is far better among his own race and quote falwell went on to assert that integration quote will destroy our race eventually so a group of black families organized and sued the tr

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treasury department saying that these schools couldn't be considered charitable institutions because they were practicing racial discrimination and they won in nineteen seventy one the court ruled that any school practicing discrimination cannot qualify for tax exempt status

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by nineteen seventy one these segregation academies were being investigated by the iris and a lot of christian evangelical leaders really did not like that because they were afraid of losing their tax exemption so suddenly paul wiring saw that he had an opportunity this was an issue

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issue that he could use to rally evangelical christians and get them involved in politics why eric teamed up with jerry falwell and together they formulated a narrative of religious freedom versus government interference even though this was really just about racist practices in schools they totally twisted around the story and started

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painting this picture saying that christian values were under attack in america and that evangelicals needed to band together to protect their rights falwell used his congregation and followers to spread his political conviction that the government should not be involved in social welfare and that the responsibility should fall on the church

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by nineteen seventy nine he founded the moral majority movement which associated the republican party and conservative politics with fundamentalism they started using all sorts of propaganda and they were networking with evangelical leaders all over the country they knew which issues would have the biggest impact on their ta

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target audience

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means we don't have to homo sexuality is acceptable acceptable the lifestyle i do believe in civil rights housing accommodations etc on the second journey what you've written

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and believe that we should condone it whether legally or otherwise as an acceptable mode of my style is not that it's moral perversion and young people need to know that need to hear that and while we should love the homosexual we should deal with homosexuality and what it is and that's wrong

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somehow in the past several years we've begun to make right what is wrong and the goal of all of this was to get the right candidate elected into office they were inciting people to go out and elect conservative right-wing politicians who would be more sympathetic to their agenda the more important thing that i

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i did was to bring together what is now known as the religious right those people were not active in politics i served a sort of coach to get them active in the political process today as you know they're an important element in electing even the president

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of the united states and it worked in nineteen eighty a groundswell of support was organized around the campaign to elect ronald reagan and his ties to the evangelical right remains strong throughout his entire presidency i'm told the tens of thousands of prayer meetings are being held on this day for that i'm deep

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be grateful we are a nation under god and i believe god intended for us to be free

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and as reagan began his presidency a boy named phil began his stay at freedom village

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when maggie and i met up with phil at a small coffee shop in buffalo his wife a nurse tagged along for moral support i could tell from the getgo that they had kind hearts we sat in the back corner of the shop where the least amount of music could be heard where did you first hear about freedom village um my mother found out about

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actually i was having some trouble in school

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and they went to evangel assembly of god which is over and ambers and i guess somebody there mentioned that there was a home for you know kids i really wasn't a troublemaker that that show what was really weird about going there i just didn't really believe in

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and for my mother that was there was a bad thing

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and i usually get picked on a lot being redhat and and believe it or not as big as i am now i was real tiny kid and i had an older brother who used to be the boy you saw when they found out that i was my little brother i used to get picked out so i had a hard time going to school mostly because i didn't want to get beat up or you know so thirty days i just didn't want to go so she took

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that as i just didn't want to go to school and that was rebelling and all this other stuff so they found out about it and try to get me into the program and how old were you at the time as twelve

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they gave me what they call a big brother he didn't really pay much attention just you know make sure you keep the room clean he's always he who is that who you are living with yeah yeah he was my my roommate i guess you could call them that but they consider him a big brother how old was he

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usually eighteen or nineteen and you were twelve yeah

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so i didn't really feel like a fit in there i was the youngest at that time i wasn't youngest person ever getting the program

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and how many kids with you to estimate were in the program at the time there were

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there'll be over one hundred kids there were like sixty two boys and the rest of the girls

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and it was

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just it's shellshock you know when you get into something like that it's not like a normal dorm school it was everything was regimented in such a way that something just didn't have time to think for yourself

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you know you didn't have time to question things and they were so ill prepared to deal with somebody of my age it was even worse they they just didn't know how to deal with a twelve year old right yeah so how how would they try and deal with someone that would ignore it i remember them i'd be trying

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crying begging to go home begging to call my parents you know or they taught me to pray about it or they would just leave they just leave the room i remember numerous staff members should come in and you know it'll be okay and just shut the door

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you know it was tough you know i i hated it i hated every minute of it

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but i resigned myself to i'm going to get out of here and the only way i can get out of here is to play the games again so i need to be the best of everything just the only way my parents are gonna ever let me come home

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at this time freedom village was reaching it's peak in terms of capacity

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we have laid a call center so in this tv show aired they would have the teams get on the call center the call center and that was something enlightening do near the end in case kids called in and were you want to talk to you talk to somebody they would want to talk to you know a kid that's in the program might be able to help them

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this and that so they have sorry they'd have kids calling in like saying i feel suicidal are so young we used to get that a lot okay we we get kids you know i need help i need this and our job was to ascertain they were trying to ascertain if this is a real call and not real call then you were to pass it off to

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one of the senior the senior members

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because they didn't want the junior members in between that we'd also have the the whoever's sunday program they'd be selling the books and sewing all that stuff we'd be doing order forms for that and you know i do probably fifty to sixty orders every sunday morning you know twenty five ff

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forty dollars hundred dollars thousand dollars no money was coming in that place like no tomorrow there was a lot of money a lot of it

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any we couldn't you know they said they couldn't afford to buy ah was we needed a bus for

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for the football team

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all that football years and the you said that was bought with the money that people donated that was a lie it was like colleges another christian college donated all the gear and the footballs and everything for them money everything there was just a facade it was all fake

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back in texas the attorney general again filed emotion against the roll-off homes claiming that the youth homes were still subject to state licensing in the heat of all the legal battles lester roloff died in a plane crash and his successor wiley cameron took over

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but at the end of nineteen eighty four the supreme court of texas ruled that the church run child care facilities violated no first amendment religious freedoms all roll-off homes would have to be licensed or shutdown widely cameron loaded up a bus of over one hundred kids and moved all the ob

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operations to missouri where state licensing was not required and just as lester roll-off began facing public and political scrutiny fletcher brothers was just getting started it was nineteen sixty eight when he dropped out of college in upstate new york to begin selling cars and appliances he filed

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a personal bankruptcy and nineteen seventy one for a debt close to thirty five thousand dollars three years later he opened up his first church in rochester new york under the name of gates community chapel just like why rick falwell and roll-off he fired up his congregation by preaching that gay people porn drugs

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rock music and the women's right movement was our society being taken over by satanic forces by the late nineteen seventies over four hundred people had joined his congregation he promoted this narrative where society is basically on the brink of destruction and he presents himself as the sort of white knight this crusader

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who's on a mission to save the world this message appealed to a lot of people because this was in the late nineteen seventies when a lot of social changes were going on and people were feeling uneasy so his message played into people's sense of fear and exploited in he started his own half hour radio show where he started to gain and produce a

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following he would claim quote i believe rochester can still be saved but we're going to need your help and then he would ask for eight thousand dollars during the period of nineteen seventy five to nineteen seventy nine he relocated twice to larger churches as his congregation grew and he also started expanding into youth program

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rams and sunday schools brothers sent out letters to pastors all over the united states mostly places in the bible belt that would be more sympathetic to his message asking for support money and political representation ultimately exposing him to a national audience one of the biggest churches that offered support was little

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town started by jerry follow

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he also began organizing protests against the gay rights movement in rochester he personally hosted a concert for nita bryant the notoriously antigay pop star and work to oppose local legislation designed to protect gay rights all this to say he was not only interested in running a church

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shh but also in promoting his political agenda actively soliciting money and rapidly expanding his audience he started a daily half hour radio program called victory today and later hosted a tv program by the same name which would feature the students at freedom village brothers offered a wholesale political identity

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candidates representing their assumed interests it's an effective strategy a strategy that roll-off used to affect legislation in texas that jerry falwell used to expand his institutions and that paul why recuse to organize and inspire voters these evangelicals gathered together to form the moral majority money and polit

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will power swinging high freedom village officially opened in nineteen eighty two under the name of gates community chapel incorporated but when rochester city inspectors served him with a notice to shut down educational services due to his refusal to apply for a license and nineteen eighty three he traveled to albany

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to meet with the same group roll off did the cia christian law association he establish an organization that was designated as a christian charity which allowed him to solicit donations and qualify for tax exemption he purchased property in a remote location making it harder for kids to run away

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and less likely that neighbors will come asking questions and then he targeted christian parents all over america he appealed to their sense of fear he fed them this narrative that the world was not a safe place for kids that their kids were vulnerable to the influences of homosexuality drugs crime and then he was presenting

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freedom village as this ideal ic sleepaway camp where their kids will be brought back to god get an education spend time outdoors be safe from the evil influences of the outside world and he expanded his reach with the victory today television program we think she's a good kid wow what what in the world

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brought you to freedom village

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suicide revalue suicide you weren't successfully

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to yourself if things were this bad now where are we going to be ten years from now yesterday we got to talking about rock music i like that the the the death songs the the suicide songs the ah destruction songs the murder songs call it whatever you wanna call it

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there have been young people who have committed murders i'm thinking of a young man and inter-rater right now that that testified that eddie the figure that used here told him to do it

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brothers was learning how to use these kids to make a lot of money he would have the kids give testimonies where they would recount the reasons why they had been sent to freedom village in the first place i asked the boys and sherry from the first episode about their experience kids are are are commodity

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that's frankly what it is and i knew that because i kinda start picking up on this i was there i was a pc so i was there for about a year and you know it was coveted to be able to go on his tv programmers radio program share our stories you know it was a big deal because oh we're on tv or in the bar re in the barn so i go out to the barn it was

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really weird and it gave you creepy vibes but i ran out there so they have had this little sat and he wants it was all stupid disgusting shit reality does making these started right away but um so he sits down and he you know talks a little bit and then introduces me he's got this manila folder right that's supposedly my

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char he opens it up i can see my side what he's got because i'm you know facing the same direction it's literally legal pad one piece of paper with i don't even know what was around i was like two birds and a paper clip and easter screening this whole bullshit story about so this is sherry she may look innocent and sweet but she man she had a knack

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nasty side on her she was flippant chairs and tables in the cafeteria for school and i'm sitting like

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this is my story but okay and that's when i started question like wait a minute is he doing this to other people like

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he completely made up my story to get money

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thing that blew my mind it stays they sell your kids like adopt the cheese they show these kids off all these kids have nobody to have none my parents are paying twenty five hundred dollars a month my parents paid for everything anytime that i needed something a letter went to my parents and they paid for it but yeah i was still part of an adoption program

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and i was still put up on stage for eight hours at a time so did a family adopt you staring like adopted teen i had i had

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i had like fifteen or sixteen adopted adoptee wish they would send me gifts and stuff like that we've never even seen the gifts you're gonna need to do the gifts these people have sent

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you never saw they were some they become checks and they tell him some the check directly to us we'll put it in their account will put it in the kid's account right i never had an account i went to every bank from watkins glen geneva lake mount horseheads i went to every

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town looking for a bank account with my name on it switzerland they've got it why did you go around to those banks after the o after yeah it was like i was probably in my twenties because you were trying to see if there was any money i wanted to shoot yeah well because they said there was money right because we had you had like fifteen or sixteen families giving

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every money works our money yeah where's their money it's got to exist somewhere somewhere with my name on it i have my name on it nobody had anything like that no bank no bank did any business with them so what did all the money go where did all the money go families believe their money was being sent to support

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a child but instead it was going into the pockets of the brother's family he would follow the awkward intense for sob stories with the plea for money by participating in adopted teen you could sponsor one or multiple teens on a monthly basis you could also become a part-time gift-giver with a one-time gift of a thousand dollars or more

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more he would promote this on his radio show or have direct fund raisers

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and he was always dressing on his hi nice and seuss he's got kids is going on these trips he's funneling all the money into his packets so we know hell knows i love to like have people digging into that and he's re trying to raise funds now still for kids he doesn't even have any supposedly familiar

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in india these programs but the whole the whole monetary network they all funnel into each other they they pay each other i think for referrals to programs and they all help each other it's like big giant money laundering scheme to me

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in two thousand and three sherry had pneumonia every time she went to the clinic and asked for antibiotics they didn't believe her and kept telling her it was just a cold it got to the point where she couldn't sleep because she was constantly coughing at this point i thought nothing could surprise me when it came to freedom village until she told me this

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this wow i'm going chap with this weekly clinic though in school um

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they he had another ministry called operation mercy that was supporting orphanages in ukraine nbu get truckloads of clothes donated to us and items and things to sort through and sent to ukraine meanwhile we've got kids around campus they don't have what they need and we weren't supposed to

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let them take anything with us specific grain commission i knew that brothers was pulling kids from across the us into his program a large source of his income was reproducing their stories on the television the radio his pamphlets together donations to promote his adopted team program however i hadn't realised that it was international

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no but long story short i had been doing that for about a year and half and they offered me the opportunity to go to ukraine with them in two thousand and three but i was dealing with that cough and i'm like why can't go overseas with this cough they won't let me so the doctor that will come in for clinic finally agreed to give me an

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antibiotic and so i go overseas i'm with like three other people they're all staff um i was early and um i was junior staff i was no master school and they flew me over to ukraine you were the only kid that one yeah the implication of freedom village having connections internationally was

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striking and it inspired me to look further throughout the course of this project freedom village ukraine has been one of the more mysterious aspects of this whole situation it's been hard to find any concrete information about brothers specific activities in ukraine i was able to find small advertisements through a website that arc

00:39:27

archives deleted web pages i found photos and videos online of fletcher brothers himself touring the ukrainian orphanages at this point it had become clear to me that fletcher brothers was acting on a profit-driven basis if he wasn't making money it wasn't worth his time which leads me to question what was he really doing

00:39:48

ing in ukraine

00:39:50

they you know we got my got my passport and everything and they should be overseas and i was with three other people and we went and stayed in this building where he had i guess at one point had tried opening a freedom village in ukraine but the government stepped in and said you don't have the proper anything to do this so this isn't happening like he was taking kids out of the orphanage

00:40:10

edges

00:40:11

to get together in freedom energy craving to get more money flowing and it was just insane and i go up there and and i spent some time in the orphanages for a week and the first night there though i got him we had only an hour's up journaling and i leaned over to coffee for going to bed and right here i felt my rep

00:40:32

and i couldn't move i could cry i quit scream i couldn't ask for help i couldn't get out of bed for forty five minutes straight to be forty five minutes from the pain to just get out of bed to them go down the hall in the girls' wing where there's some you know women staying there because i was flat ass

00:40:52

ask for help from an escrow who barely spoke english very broken english

00:40:58

trying to explain what happened um and about myself and it was crazy i'm going to foreign country breaking my ribs sick i mean it was just crazy it was an experience but it was crazy what i can tell you for sure is that the video footage i found was a fletcher brothers touring a ukrainian orphanage he shot a lot of the footage in an orphanage specifically

00:41:18

housing mentally and physically disabled children at one point he was literally giving the kids candy and having them sit on his lap this footage was accompanied by sappy music and audio of him asking his followers for donations obviously he was involved with multiple orphanages in ukraine i just didn't know to what extent

00:41:38

i know that fletcher brothers is a businessman and business is about weighing costs and benefits to sun himself multiple other freedom village members like sherry along with the camera crew is an expensive cost so what was the benefit how much money was he actually making from his involvement in the ukraine

00:41:58

well i can't prove anything i can't help but wonder if there was something darker going on here especially given the prevalence of child trafficking in this part of eastern europe at this time i still don't know exactly what went down and if you're listening and no information please reach out they knew that sherry was low

00:42:18

royal she had been working at freedom village for four years at this point and they knew that she would be a reliable source of labor for whatever they were doing to put on the tv shows she was vulnerable to whatever they asked now she was in a foreign country sick and not being taking care of her life was totally in their hands meanwhile in

00:42:38

the actual facility we had a slim-fit saw the sewage from this place ran into this

00:42:47

gully it was right there was just on the other side if you ever go the property i don't see a machine of property or using that little hold there's that little light gully the drops down that

00:43:01

upon looking very that's all sewage that's rather sewage shrunk so they had no real sewage system like no that was it just ran it into that and then trickled down through the rocks and back in and into the lake yeah

00:43:22

the victory singers and the whole you know advanced choir they would go across the border every now and then and there have like little

00:43:32

churches holding banquets but all it is is you have to pay to go there and while you're there they ask for money

00:43:38

fundraiser

00:43:40

sure sounds like direct buying

00:43:43

i know my family had a long drive by meeting showing growing up but yeah um and

00:43:50

i'll have my testimony and and some people go have testimonies were saying i was always terrible but

00:43:57

i enterprise when he's asked money but i would want your testimony

00:44:01

sure who to full

00:44:08

i mean we've already caught up to the point where the testimony already happened so i was just being like oh i'm from russia my family is probably not gonna be there for me free villages all i have

00:44:20

that was the voice of sunny who is the last person i'll be introducing on the podcast today

00:44:26

sonny was there for three and a half years he arrived in two thousand and sixteen and was literally one of the last kids to leave the property when it got shut down in twenty nineteen sonny was born in russia but was adopted by an american family who brought him to the us when he was still a baby his family was christian and very strict

00:44:46

and when he was fourteen they sent him away to a boarding school however they soon found a cheaper option and freedom village and he was transferred there a year later he describes what it was like at one of these events

00:45:01

well beyond the fact that you know every every time we probably shouldn't joke every started the same jokes every time we have seven dogs

00:45:13

we've adapted over time and they're all different cars one of these columbia and a callback to the yesterday and the ale

00:45:25

the top of my head

00:45:27

uh yeah why

00:45:35

one of the times we have about six different nationalities

00:45:40

are we in for another show now to always start off couple songs he give an intro we give testimonies and then he goes go into the current politics within the last six months in case people miss out on what's going on

00:45:55

if you believe that and we differ

00:46:01

about a year doctrinaire

00:46:05

draw my heavily

00:46:11

measure

00:46:14

like all university

00:46:20

and rosa the battle for gender

00:46:24

to me that was important

00:46:26

what's wrong with the village filled with the here without hearing the hero shy is this room

00:46:34

and that he's ramble about that for a couple minutes and then he's like ah discuss film way to go and fish

00:46:44

reddit each person helping get a respectively thousand retweets

00:46:49

engage in ukraine real real hard he was good at making money he took risks but not all would go unnoticed

00:46:59

pasture brothers get along life and legal shill a fun toy oil for or from

00:47:08

because the group if you weren't like a washroom like wow guy works his radio show here there is a legal shill and they're coming the freemasons award where they just have like this painter shit like that and that this major legal show a legal shill essentially is this

00:47:26

fifty fifty it does work but

00:47:30

it's so ponzi scheme

00:47:34

legal shield is multilevel marketing in this case you pay a small fee to get access to a lawyer for an array of services think planning personal injury instead of paying hourly fees associates of legal shield made money by selling the service to others and fletcher brothers used his traveling band of

00:47:53

poster children to advertise on his behalf netting himself a significant profit while also soliciting donations

00:48:01

i found a series written in nineteen eighty two by upstate new york magazine that depicts his suspicious financial behavior with original staff members of his first church gates community chapel examples include not paying interest on the seventy seven thousand dollar loan from an eight-year-old radio listener not being able to account for twenty thousand dollars in hd

00:48:21

nations raised to fight legislation against the rights of homosexuals selling ten dollar books through the mail that had never even been printed and one of his earliest gaffes was claiming a religious tax exemption without any proof of ordain meant ten years later in nineteen ninety three the rochester democrat and chronicle wrote a three-part

00:48:41

that series titled where did all money go which essentially tells the same story he had been collecting funds through his radio show until his popularity increased so much that he began alone program at the promise of a fourteen percent interest rate more than fifteen hundred people had invested their life savings into this program

00:49:02

in nineteen ninety he filed for chapter eleven bankruptcy for twenty one million dollars

00:49:11

but this all happens for years before jesse even arrives and by that point it seemed as if the adopted teens sponsors were becoming even more prominent politically influential and sinister tim from the last episode was there at the same time as jessie i remember at one point

00:49:28

he stops answering my questions and asked me one instead is anybody brought up mr j t yet okay so when i was there and this is something that realised i was already i didn't realize i was a kid there's this old guy old they kind of ever way to name mr j he would come in and he's from dc come in once or twice every

00:49:49

st monsters so donate a lot of money to free village and he would take his choosing of three or four three or four boys in the program and take them out and like bond watches stuff like that and i mean i'm not trying to stereotype somebody

00:50:04

you know you kind of get a feel for somebody's next guy was creepy and it was like he had his like certain i'll guess i'm not gonna notice those older like it's almost like a certain preference of boys that he would always take down bar with fossil watches real nice jackets and stuff like that i just really turn out weird hours monitored regularly deal was

00:50:24

when i asked jesse about his adopted teens sponsors he began to describe the same person

00:50:31

so he was a lawyer back then worked for the same company

00:50:36

he was in his late thirties maybe

00:50:42

and he would it wasn't adopted no

00:50:47

was different from the other adopted teens because he had political connections so he was he was never married um he took a real shining to like very specific boys they usually

00:51:02

but we were would have called pretty boys at the time he was showered them with gifts

00:51:09

it was very creepy when you think about it as an adult but he would um

00:51:15

get political connections through the republican party

00:51:19

um human come whenever he wanted

00:51:23

he was an honorary staff member and a lot of times he was allowed to take boys off campus to like his hotel room if he stayed off campus or he would come and stay in the dorm and like

00:51:39

be on duty but he'd really be staying in boys' rooms

00:51:44

he had at least like six or seven

00:51:48

how can i say this he was very close to the boys like you climb in bed with them and like cuddle with them and stuff and we had a senior trip to is we had a senior trip to dc where he lived and we all the boys stayed in his apartment and it was more of a house but the

00:52:07

yes he was running we stayed there and a couple of the boys stayed in his room with the door closed

00:52:12

yeah there somewhere at stuff going on there jessie goes on to explain that during his senior year he was one of the students that went to dc

00:52:22

oh boy yeah um dc was kind of like the pinnacle of everything starting to fall apart the boys got to stay in his house we met justice clarence thomas was like friends with

00:52:35

it was on that trip that

00:52:40

a couple of things happen i

00:52:43

realised what was going on

00:52:46

i made the i made a lot of connections with different things and i knew that i didn't want to be there anymore i just wanted to graduate i want to go to college and

00:52:59

in a kind of gotten tired of me he wasn't early messing with me anymore

00:53:05

um but that's um i kind of made a comment

00:53:11

kind of called them out there making like a smart comment about you know i don't think the doors should be closed when people are sleeping in the room and he's like what are you implying like there's this whole like it was a whole big thing and you took me off to the side it was a big spectacle um

00:53:31

and

00:53:33

on the last day he um he actually came in the bathroom when i was in there and he closed the door and locked it and he just like

00:53:46

here i don't even know how to say it without being like graphic so it was the very last time that he did anything to me but he really just took it out and like he just really

00:54:00

if talk to me so hard

00:54:03

and

00:54:05

it was this

00:54:07

it wasn't vengeful it was

00:54:10

horrible um i felt like this was a teaching lesson or something

00:54:16

and ah

00:54:17

just that was the trip where it just like everything just made me feel disgusted and just ashamed and yeah that was the trip that you know you have one of those moments where it's like this is where everything changes thou it

00:54:34

jesse is currently an illegal case against freedom village and mr j which is why neither of their full or real names can be used in this podcast there are currently four more sexual abuse cases against freedom village happening right now that span across before decades they were open this

00:54:53

it does not include any of the survivors who were abused and have chosen to remain silent if we take a look back in history these cases are not due to a bad apple in the pic of the staff it's rather a structural system that allows abusive individuals like mister j to thrive

00:55:12

the lester roloff homes are also the focus of numerous abuse allegations after operations moved to missouri the roll-off homes were then invited back to the state of texas by then governor george w bush he created an alternative accreditation process for religious schools and declared an order to institute

00:55:32

more faith-based initiatives these schools were making politicians money while simultaneously carving a path for many of those boys to enter the military when jessie left the village he immediately went to the army and served for seven years i have connected some people in the army

00:55:52

ur in the vi i went to a group for people who have been sexually assaulted and there were a couple of people there are two guys there that i spoke with who came from lester roloff homes and their whoever hurts you when i see that we have very similar stories and they were put in the army a couple of them

00:56:12

they were children who were born to dimmer like teenage pregnancies that were born through the role of house and were adopted to a christian family and like when they were like fifteen sixteen and they kind of got sent off to like the roll-off program itself like it was like a circle like the

00:56:32

showdown be born they get they get adopted and then they went end up in loan roll-off home and i started to see that larger cycle when i learned that sunny also entered the military right after the village the day after he left freedom village was the day that he started bootcamp never returning to his adopted fam

00:56:54

he notes that throughout his three and a half years there he also noticed patterns of kids coming in and out of similar programs some in new york but others multiple states away like a gop a boarding school in missouri

00:57:08

never heard of lighthouse christian academy fresh go through there we have some questions transfer over into golf and we were thinking about the student or something like that and the story should go and be a displaced different but they don't beat you up here but you guys are way tighter security you guys know

00:57:27

oh nowhere

00:57:30

yeah so it's like a wax on wax off for some point so some sometimes when the kids were picked out and wasn't back home for the kids and kicking down home you know anything sometimes they would go into like a studio shaped like they were talking to parents and say hey we highly recommend lighthouse christian academy

00:57:49

missouri

00:57:51

no the lighthouse christmas coffee related tools comprehensive for her and then they would go there and then like a month later we will get a new kid and he'd just be like yeah you know that that match guy he said he was from here like

00:58:07

i mean it's like a world within the world of programme cases other places

00:58:13

i mean yeah that kind of sounds like like trafficking a little bit

00:58:19

as long as we got run over

00:58:21

so technically legally

00:58:24

because they have real show they knew the law

00:58:29

but they were kind of human

00:58:33

what they were doing in the big picture was all but they covered all their tracks because all the blogs share so that's why they would go specifically be like waking up to three days heat and on thursday we have to motel or something because they knew the point that there is a limit or it wasn't outta action

00:58:52

and then i say you know something can happen in thirty eight or so she's like they sometimes they knew what they're doing doing other times they're a string

00:59:03

green village in november of twenty twenty two nineteen new sexual abuse cases were filed against a copy boarding school last year a former doctor at gabay was charged with more than a dozen child sex crimes in two counties it wasn't until i started writing this episode that i realised why i wanted jess

00:59:23

tsi sonny and phil to all be in the same one they were all adopted by christian families and sent to freedom village when or before the age of fifteen years old phil was there for a year and a half sunny for three years and jessie for four years this wasn't a temporary place but a facility that actively profit

00:59:43

did off of having young long-term members the longevity guaranteed money in their pockets whether it be through the parents paying tuition or a dramatic story that could be sold to the public for profit and after their time was over they either entered the military or spent time in prison what do you do with those kids those kids really are

01:00:03

problems when you do so you have an industry that

01:00:10

let's say nine out of ten kids go through those industries really aren't that bad of person to shut a bad run of luck you know and they get shoved into that system

01:00:22

they're not getting help they're getting hurt to the hurt nine helping the one that

01:00:27

next it's just it's it's it's a fireman's like a calling of human beings i asked jesse if he would also consider this a form of human trafficking yes that's why i say i've always kept us out had all these political connections and could get payments to all these events and things and then trading it gets

01:00:47

hang out with the boys in the norm and the honoring staff is just an adopted teen

01:00:52

you know he spent all this money on the village so he gets the pick which voicing it's the hell if this is really creepy sharing noted some of her instances of human trafficking he had some sort of connection and very humid anyway hide it some sort of connection with a korean pastor in new york

01:01:13

and he funneled kids to fletcher and those kids would come and program for probably the first three four years i was there as a large influx of korean kids some of whom barely spoke english we also who else we got a large influx of kids from

01:01:33

new york's north carolina new york city philly area and blot from buffalo i mean all these hot spots where he had these connections with people like pastors or some sort of religious faith leader and had connections with other people

01:01:53

he would always have all these like barely known but in your normal spheres but is southern gospel singers like no-name evil um coming in and it was just creepy the justice department of the united states defines human trafficking as a crime that involves compelling

01:02:13

a person to provide labor or to engage in commercial sex acts as we learned from the last episode the boys and girls were providing acts of service to freedom village such as the upkeep of the horses maintenance of the actual property and cleaning staff members like fletcher brothers personal homes all the while brothers

01:02:33

s was profiting off of selling their personal stories will they supposedly receive therapeutic care but the situation with jessi opened up a new perspective for me to understand how this could be considered trafficking jesse's abuser gave financial donations and political connections to freedom village in exchange for access

01:02:54

to vulnerable boys with whom he could do what he pleased how many other arrangements like this existed a report from the star telegram in two thousand and eighteen discovered at least four hundred and twelve allegations of sexual misconduct in one hundred eighty seven independent fundamentalist baptist churches and their affiliated insta

01:03:14

two oceans these organizations are able to appear charitable and just claiming to provide a service to children congregations believe them and give them money but underneath it all is a power structure that profits off the lives it takes responsibility for when i was in with silence and d c i talked to allow the you know since

01:03:34

and legislation's two were going for these homes to be shut down we're going to have to fight the church state law even that stop abusive to institutional act and stuff it ain't gonna cover none of this right yeah well it's not going to help these homes their honour churches day and we got to take that on and that's gonna be a hell

01:03:54

fight cause they told me that there's so many good cero charities out there you know the help people debt they're not going to give up that for for that for this more or less and that came by our senators mouse because i didn't know what to do and i learned how to tick tock believe it or not and i've important pole

01:04:14

posted the original news clippings original footage the court case and you know i've sold it how it builds up into what it is today you know which is a copy right now because they're the ones that's got isn't the public guy there's still probably i got one hundred names of

01:04:34

i'll be home students states that are still open still using kids unlicensed unregulated most of them don't believe in the medicines they do not believe like many mental illness a d d and all that stuff and it's just unbelievable to me that things have in nineteen seventy is still happening in twa

01:04:55

any twenty two and love is the same abuse still getting coughed eat your vomit didn't beat bloody disdain stuff is still happening to these children all these decades under churches state law

01:05:10

it protected those rejected by the jokey wyman so many politicians are embedded in this they own stock in it own stock in children mike pence donald trump reagan bush there are presidents that own stock in these homes and

01:05:30

that's nuts oh yeah they just think this stuff is okay those are good christian people and they're better than us kids that are unwanted to always kids so they put us in torture camps and they shattered us behind them doors there is still no national database for the troubled teen industry no oversight or record

01:05:50

keeping for the defunct or still running institutions religious programs are especially excluded from these statistics since they can claim church status and again avoid the spotlight

01:06:02

i could argue that the patriarchal religious business model has been around for centuries it's simple establish an organization designated as a christian charity which then allows it to solicit for donations with tax exemption

01:06:17

the entire thing comes down to a scale millions of american parents have bought into this narrative believing in this as a solution politicians sell it the military sells it and the media sells it yet despite the sales being high no one cares to look at the numbers or success rates of these places

01:06:37

currently there are over fifty thousand children being held in over a thousand private facilities across america in two thousand and eight the government accountability office conducted a report on the abusive practices of the troubled teen industry they presented findings in a congressional hearing which stated that youth in residential treatment facility

01:06:57

eighties experienced mistreatment including physical abuse sexual assault neglect and civil and human rights violations this entire thing comes down to a scam it's a scam that targets families targets children and takes advantage of people's faith the focus is entirely on profit with absolut

01:07:17

really no regard for the well-being of the human lives who have been taken from their homes to live at these facilities

01:07:26

there's a reason that slavery has been such a persistent presence throughout human history it's lucrative

01:07:37

on the next episode of we won them freedom village

01:07:41

i mean what would he be what he'd be happy if he had a call yeah think you'd be exact

01:07:46

thank you love me a cult leader and it's religious abuse it's it's it's own brand of abuse and you don't see it until

01:07:55

a times you don't even ever see it because it has this other percent which is god attached to it my mom high school

01:08:08

just said that i went on a week

01:08:12

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